Jerry and Bill Abts, myself and Elaine were talking about how great it was to have a Reiner to grow up with. Jerry had Paul and Bill and I had John. In the later years we had John to show us around St. Louis and get us tickets to the Cubs game after a train ride to Chicago and a cool B&B. Growing up with John though was the best. BB guns, fishing poles, hunting, (we had a list of things we hunted), serving mass then playing cards in the city jail when the winter winds blew. Elaine and I loved him so